Email exchange with "P.C." archivist at Kentucky State Library

From: Jim.Prichard@ky.gov
To: dixie_crat@hotmail.com
CC: Joe.Horton@ky.gov  Joe.Horton@ky.gov  Gabrielle.Gayheart@ky.gov Gabrielle.Gayheart@ky.gov
Subject: Website Info
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:36:56 -0400

Dear Mr. Gresham:



Your recent communication was forwarded to me for response. I
must respectfully disagree with your comments in reference to our
description of the Confederate State Government of Kentucky. One could argue
that the members of the Russellville Convention of 1861 merely carried out
what they lacked the power to do in the Kentucky General Assembly before the
collapse of neutrality. One could also contend that the convention was
largely composed of self-appointed delegates, backed by Confederate
bayonets, who more importantly, did not represent the will of most
Kentuckians.



The majority of Kentuckians remained loyal to the Union, albeit the Union
"as it was" (with slavery intact). To place Kentucky's Confederate
government, a powerless, almost token entity that spent most of its
existence in exile, on the same level as Virginia or any other state that
passed a formal ordinance of secession would distort the picture. I assure
you, we strive for historical accuracy not political correctness.



I would also like to add that we appreciate the feedback. History matters
and we duly noted your additional comments about the Confederate flag. You
are absolutely correct. The 1864 Army of Northern Virginia battle flag
should not be referred to as the "Stars and Bars." I will advise our
webmaster that the first Confederate national flag is more appropriate.




Best Regards,

James Prichard,
Archivist


From:  Joe Gresham dixie_crat@hotmail.com
To : Jim.Prichard@ky.gov                                                                                                                                             CC : Joe.Horton@ky.gov, Gabrielle.Gayheart@ky.gov                                                                                       Subject : Re: Website Info                                                                                                                                     Date : Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:23:48 -0


Mr. Prichard,

It doesn't surprise me that you defend your position, after all, that is the "official" position of the modern day Kentucky government. The fact is, the "official" legislature betrayed the people by going against the people's will, and voting down secession which WAS THE OVERWHELMING WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

Whether it was due to cowardice (because they were aware that "not so honest Abe" had sent in the Federal Army and arrested almost the entire legislature in Maryland, along with the Mayor of Baltimore, for daring to desire secession, and imprisoned them without benefit of "habeas corpus").... or whatever reason. The fact remains, they betrayed the will of the people.

Those representatives were no more self appointed than Madison, Jefferson and Henry were, 80 some years prior....and "Backed by Confederate bayonets" ? How totally preposterous?

There were representatives from 68 counties and letters from the remaining counties in support of secession, kind of sounds like a mandate from the people to me. The myth that most of Kentucky favored the Union, is just that, a myth. They (along with the rest of the South) would have preferred peaceful secession, but that was not allowed. Kentucky's neutrality was violated by the yankees, long before Confederate forces entered the state. The yankee invasion of Kentucky was one of the reasons that led to the Russellville Convention, along with lincoln's demand for troops to invade a sister Southern state, and his un-Constitutional declaration of war.

And why must we always revert back to "slavery"? Slavery was almost a "non-issue" until mr.lincoln tried to use it to incite servile insurrection in the South, with his great public relations scam, the Emancipation Proclamation. Have you ever really read and thought about what that document is saying? He carefully crafted it to "declare all slaves free" where he TOTALLY lacked the authority to do so, in the Southern held parts of the Confederacy. He was careful to totally exclude those parts of the Confederacy that the yankees had taken control of, and never mentioned a word about northern held slaves. While I'm on the subject of slavery, do you know what the last "slave state" admitted to the union was? West Virginia, lincoln (unconstitutionally again) convinced the people in the western region of Virginia that if they would break away from Virginia, and side with him, they could keep their slaves! Aside from all of that, again I cite the Constitution...he had no authority Constitutionally, to declare ANY slave free! But then, a little thing like the Constitution never impeded him in any way, from doing anything he wanted to do.

I guess if the colonists had lost their bid for freedom, there would be similar accounts given..."It wasn't legitimate, after all where did they get the authority? They didn't do it through King George's court!" If the Declaration of Independence is legitimate, so is Kentucky's Ordinance of Secession, you can't have it both ways. You know, in war, to the victor go the spoils, and part of the spoils is the ability to write the "official history", well, being "official" doesn't make it accurate.

Kentucky has a rich Confederate history, one to be proud of! Why must it always be played down? Why is the South always villainized? Why can't we be honest?

Yes, "history" does matter, but true and accurate history really matters!

God bless Dixie!
Joe Gresham

This "OFFICIAL"marker stands in Cadiz, Trigg Co. Kentucky.  Henry Cornelius Burnett, the man that presided over the Kentucky Secession Convention at Russellville , was the duly elected u.S. Congressman from that district.  Hardly the self appointed yahoo Mr Prichard implies were "running the show"
  As for the "treason charges" mentioned on the marker, of course they were dropped, just like the ones against Jeff Davis.  They were dropped because they were unfounded, treason had not been committed except by lincoln and his goons
The following email exchange was the result of my contacting the Kentucky State Library I was inquiring about info on the Confederate government of Kentucky, and I informed them of a couple of mistakes on their website.
  Evidently my comments were passed on to a Mr. Prichard in the archive department, and he attempted to be very "superior", and copied his response to some of his co-workers....naturally, when I responded, I too "copied" his co-workers.  I don't have the original correspondence that started this  whole exchange, but my answer to his moronic reply is below....enjoy!
email rants & back talk
From: "Joseph Gresham" <dixie_crat@hotmail.com
To: Barry Bright
Subject: Re: Read Richare Reid's sentencing by Judge William Young
-
Date sent: Sat, 03 May 2003 12:13:31 -0500

Barry,
My personal feelings are mixed on this "shoe bomber dude"...but
you're
right, about the judges words being spoken to "us"(anyone who
seriously opposes the elite) some day. And I just wonder what
"freedom" he was referring to....the "freedom" to work through May
every year to pay unlawful taxes, the "freedom" to have all your
possessions confiscated, and disposed of (on suspicion of a crime,
without a fair trial) by our "servant government", or the "freedom" to
have our doors kicked in by some overzealous storm trooper
puke....maybe it's the "freedom" to be arrested for not wearing a
seatbelt, or carrying our small kids in a car in the wrong seat or out
of an approved car seat...perhaps it's the "freedom" to be arrested
for exercising our "right" to have and bear arms..you know that one
that specifically states "shall not be infringed" ....or just maybe
it's the "freedom" to be arrested for exercising any one of the
multitudes of "rights" that are supposed to be inviolable, that are
daily violated. ....Yeah,I can easily see how one could hate
"freedom"...it's all in the definition you choose to describe
"freedom"....somehow, I don't think they're using the same dictionary
today, that Jefferson, and Madison used. I think Jeff Davis and
Robert E. Lee must have carried the last copies to the grave with
them.

God bless Dixie,
Joe Gresham

The following item is my response to an article from an email list that I am on, the article was talking about the judge's words to the "shoe bomber" during the sentencing following his conviction.  I was replying to comments made about the accused "hating freedom"
From: Jason Balor
To: southernpartysw@msn.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Please don't
Dear Chairman Goodson,
I just got off your website, for the Southern Parties of the Southwest. While it may be your right to fly your flag inside your house, you do not have a right out side. I also heard, you maybe going to the Demonstration at the Arizona State Capitol on the 22nd of this month. I would ask you not to, it would cause division for those that want to keep the Ten Commandments in the Wesley Bolin Plaza.
No one wants to see the flag of a racist country fly, so please don't come. If you do, you won't be allowed in.
Jason Balor

Joseph Gresham wrote:
Mr. Balor,
How dare you, make your prejudicial demands on another citizen ?
To start with, all Confederate flags are Honorable flags and symbols of a noble cause and effort....as the effort in the 1700's against the strangle hold of the British, the South was fighting for the exact same principles. The War of Northern Aggression was just that noble on the part of the Southerners, anyway. I can't help it that you have been mis-educated, and are grossly ignorant. You have been "educated" either in government indoctrination centers laughingly called "schools" or by texts created for the sole purpose of advancing the "yankee lie", and Marxism .
Mr. Goodson has plenty of TRUE educational materials on his website, If you really desired truth and knowledge, you could read it and learn something, besides the propaganda you have previously swallowed.
As for Mr. Goodson's right to fly that flag......you're dead wrong again. He has the God given right to fly that flag or any flag anywhere he chooses. In his house or on his car, right in front of YOUR HOUSE ! We do have a thing called the "Constitution", and believe it or not, it applies to all people, not just the politically correct .
As for the "racist flag" .....are you kidding? Who ever told you racism or for that matter slavery was a Southern institution? Do you realize that ALL of the original 13 colonies/States had slavery? Do you realize that the Confederate Constitution banned the importation of slaves, years before the u.S. Constitution did? Do you realize that General U.S. Grant held slaves throughout the war and for YEARS after the war ended? Do you realize that the u.S. Capitol building was being built throughout the war, right under the nose of "Great Emancipator" (lincoln)....with AFRICAN SLAVE LABOR ? Do you realize that the flag that flew over almost every slave ship was the u.S. flag? Do you realize that NOT A SINGLE SLAVE SHIP ever flew a Confederate Flag? Do you realize that the yankees were the slave traders ? Do you realize that less than 6% of all Southerners owned slaves? Yet over 28% of the free Blacks in the South owned slaves ? Do you realize that the last SLAVE STATE admitted
to the union was West Virginia ? ( West Virginia was created by lincoln, in a totally un-Constitutional manner...unlike the secession of a state, which IS Constitutional, the Constitution SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS the creation of a state from within the bounds of an existing state, without the aggreement of the entire state's legislature...anyway lincoln convinced the people of western Virginia that IF they seceded from Virginia, and sided with the union, THEY COULD KEEP THEIR SLAVES !) And you thought that war was about slavery ? Visit the National Archives or Library of Congress online, they're full of historic documents to debunk that theory.I could go on and on, but the fact of the matter is...the South wasn't about slavery and racism then, and it isn't now.
Your rally to support the 10 Commandments is a proper forum for anything Confederate. After all, to this day, most of the South is referred to as the Bible Belt, because it is common knowledge that the South is a strongly Christian conservative country.
I assume you claim to be Christian ? Is discrimination a "Christian principle" to you ?Your desire to not allow support of your cause by individuals due to the presence of a flag ( Which is a Christian Symbol, by the way, the symbol is known as the St. Andrews Cross) is NON CHRISTIAN !
The modern day buzz word "tolerance" is good for many causes today, I guess with the exception of Southern people. If you really want to disallow racist flags, I suggest you advise folks not to bring "Old Glory" the u.S. flag, for it is the flag of slavery.
I submit to you, that anyone who is offended by or objects to ANY CONFEDERATE FLAG OR SYMBOL is ignorant .....PERIOD !
After you read the info on the Southern Parties of the Southwest webpage, you're welcome to visit our website as well, and learn some more.
GOD BLESS DIXIE!
Joe Gresham - chairman
SIP/Ky

From: Jason Balor
To: Joseph Gresham
Subject: Re: Please don't
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:47:20 -0800 (PST)
Mr. Gresham,
How dare you, call me prejudiced. I am not a racist, nor do I espouse those things. I have a right NOT to be offended, the Confederate flag offends me. I am ashamed to be white, when I look at that flag. You who fly that flag are racists deep down, because you support a system of Government that had slaves. I know that slave existed before the Civil war, but the north outlawed it by 1858. The South refused to and commited treason by breaking away. The war was about slavery, why do you think that Lincoln freed the slaves? All of you Confederates are traitors and should be hung.
I have been to his site, I found nothing but lies in it. Arizona was never a member of the Confederacy. The traitors did try to take it, but they were stopped by the honorable troops of the Union.
In short sir, every thing you spout are nothing but lies and should be outlawed. One day, it will in God's good time. If the racist Goodson and his party comes to the rally, we will have them arrested for tresspassing.
Long live the Union.
Jason Balor

From: Joe Gresham <dixie_crat@hotmail.com>
To : countbalor@yahoo.com                                                                                                                              Subject : Re: Please don't                                                                                                                                         Date : Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:14:32 -0600

Sir.
Your attitude and statements in your emails prove your prejudice. I really need to say nothing to prove it. But for your benefit, I will endeavor to do so.
To start with, YOU ARE PREJUDICED against Southern people (That's more than obvious)
Secondly, You or anybody else DO NOT posess a right to "Not be offended" If you think you do, please cite me a law or reference to such in the Constitution....But you can't, because none exist!
Third, you mentioned you were ashamed to be white....this is exactly what the politically correct desire. I will offer a quote " Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."---Jean Francois Revel
Surely you know who Charles Dickens is? The celebrated English author and journalist?
Well I believe one must consider him a "neutral third party"..Right? Well this is one of many of his observations of America
"Any reasonable creature may know, if willing, that the North hates the Negro, and that until it was convenient to make a pretense that sympathy with him was the cause of the war, it hated the abolitionists and derided them up hill and down dale. As to Secession being Rebellion, it is distinctly possible by state papers that Washington considered it no such thing, that Massachusetts, now loudest against it, has itself asserted its right to secede, again and again." ---Charles Dickens
Fourth Treason? For seceding? Are you kidding? Go by the public Library and pick up a copy of "A view of the Constitution" By William Rawles This was the text book used by The u.S. Army at West Point (Where Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, U.S. Grant, William T. Sherman and many more studied and received their commissions) It plainly states that secession is Constitutional.
Read abe lincoln's innaugural addresses...even HE said: "Any people, anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right, a right
which we hope and believe is to liberate the world." - Abe Lincoln
If you don't like that one, try reading the Declaration of Independence which states "....whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government"...yeah, I guess your right...TREASON......NOT!
Fifth On the issue of northern abolition of slavery, you're just plain wrong again, as a matter of fact, lincoln's famous "emancipation proclaimation" was nothing but smoke and mirrors. He carefully worded it so thathe was declaring the slaves in the Confederacy (where he had absolutely no authority at all) free, he was careful to exclude those portions of the South that had been captured and were under Union control, he also said not one word about northern held slaves. Do a Google search, it's available online, read it, and think about what is being said. And as for the north outlawing slavery by 1858...absolutely NOT TRUE, that happened through the 13th amendment...after the war (as I said before the yankees kept slaves after that, U.S. Grant for I believe it was 13 years after the war!)
sixth As for Arizona never having been part of the C.S.A., once more you are wrong! Would you believe the Library of Congress? Early in the 20th century, the u.S. Congress authorized the publication of the "Journals of the Confederate Congress" and they are available on the internet, at the Library of Congress website, here's the link:
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwcc.html
Do a bit of reading there...especially about December 10, 1861...you'll see where Arizona became the first Territory of the CSA.
And here goes some more of your prejudice against the South..."all you Confederates are traitors and should be hung"....you know, I believe that borders on being a "hate crime."
And sir, I beg to differ with you, all I have seen on Mr. Goodson's website is true and accurate....because you have been taught lies, does not render the truth invalid. And as for what we say being outlawed, that sounds very much like your idol mr. lincoln. Did you know that he had the grandson (Francis Key Howard)of the author (Francis Scott Key) of the "Star Spangled Banner" arrested and imprisoned at Fort McHenry, the same fort where his Grandfather had written the National Anthem? He was arrested and imprisoned for having the audacity to write an article in a newspaper critical of lincoln...by the way, he was imprisoned without the benefit of a trial...but then what's a little thing like the Constitution to a tyrant like lincoln ?
Sir I could go on for hours, but I guess your mind is made up and after all "ignorance is bliss"
If you refuse to search and learn the truth, you'll continue in your ignorance. With an attitude like yours, you have no business telling others that the 10 Commandments should stay, after all, it might offend someone.
I have told nothing but the truth, If you refuse to investigate it, I pity you!
Oh, And the only honorable part of the yankee soldiers is the Southern soil that stuck to their boots as they were defiling it.
God bless Dixie!
Joe Gresham
SIP/Ky
www.kentuckysip.homestead.com
" If I ever disown, repudiate or apologise for the cause for which Lee fought and Jackson died, let the lightenings from Heaven rend me and the scorn of all good men and true women be my portion. Sun, moon and stars all fall on me when I cease to love the Confederacy. 'Tis the cause, not the fate of the cause, that is glorious"---- Major R. E. Wilson, C.S.A.

The next item is an exchange with some ignoramous in Arizona, who was attempting to prevent an Arizonan Southron from showing up at a local 10 Commandments rally with a Confederate flag....I was invited to join in the fun and I did oblige!

Below is the result of my involvement ( at the invitation of my friend and compatriot Charles Goodson of the Southern Party of the Southwest) in an email exchange with an atheist, I spanked him quite severely, and all he could do was respond with something he copied from an atheist website. This is what he sent and my remarks are in red below.  I haven't heard another peep out of him
By the way, notice the word "Xtian" that these creeps use? I'm assuming that's their way of attempting to deny that Christ ever existed......funny but the calendar they and virtually the whole world uses, acknowledges Christ's ...the years count down, then count up....I wonder why...DUH!----- Joe Gresham

From: "Chris" <joedirt490@greenepa.net
To: <southernpartysw@msn.com
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:48:55 -0500

People like youselves is what really makes any religion dangerous. Since
you can't understand that "Congress shall make no law..........." means
separation (no endorsement of a particular religion), your IQ must not be
above room temperature. -Chris Williams, Pa American Atheist
Chris


And yours must be at or below "Absolute zero"

Joe Dirt, huh?
I think you have chosen an appropriate email address, obviously you're a dirt ball, and an ignorant one at that. Why can't you leftist pukes ever read the whole quote? Maybe it's because you know your view and argument is skewed. The rest of the story, as Paul Harvey would say....is this: "......respecting the establishment of religion", which, contrary to your twisted interpretation, does not mean "separation" in the sense that you are wishing it did. And by the way, there is NO LANGUAGE IN THE CONSTITUTION providing for "separation of church and state" like leftists of your ilk rattle on about continually. What it does say and mean is: that there should be no official state religion and NO INTERFERENCE OF ANY KIND, from the government with any religion....PERIOD! Now before you say "See there, that's what I was saying...", hear me out. That does not mean that we can not acknowledge Christianity as the basis of our government or our legal system...it simply means, that the government CAN NOT ESTABLISH AN OFFICIAL CHURCH, LIKE ENGLAND DID, and basically demand everyone belong to it and support it. Countless documents from the settlement to the founding of the American government bear this out...the Mayflower Compact, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution, and many moreacknowledge God as our Father and Creator, many of those documents even go so far as stating that the reason for coming to the "New World" is for the advancement of the Gospel of Christ. Don't swallow the crap that the socialists feed you, do some research, read the historic documents, think for yourself...IF you do, your opinion is bound to change

"There is an insidious campaign of false propaganda being waged today, to the effect that our country is not a Christian country, but a religious one-that it was not founded on Christianity but freedom of religion. It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians-not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this reason people of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." ---Patrick Henry

"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity."---John Quincey Adams

No truth is more evident to my mind that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people."---Noah Webster

"It is impossible to govern...without God and the Bible."---George Washington

"Religion liberty is so blended with civil, that if one falls it is not to be expected that the other will continue." ---Charles Turner, (Election Sermon 1773)

"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever." --Thomas Jefferson

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --John Adams

"A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader." --Samuel Adams

"The cause of America is in a great measure the cause of all mankind. Where, some say, is the king of America? I'll tell you, friend, He reigns above.---Thomas Paine

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great Pillars." --George Washington Farewell Address September 19, 1796

"The Constitution was never meant to prevent people from praying; its declared purpose was to protect their freedom to pray." --Ronald Reagan

"Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor and my fellow justices have argued that they must act to remove the monument to preserve the rule of law. But the precise opposite is true: Article VI of the Constitution makes explicitly clear that the Constitution, and the laws made pursuant to it, are 'the supreme Law of the Land.' Judge Thompson and the judges of the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals have all sworn oaths which bind them to support the Constitution as it is written -- not as they would personally prefer it to be written. ... By subjugating the people of Alabama to the unconstitutional edict by Judge Thompson...the attorney general and my colleagues have made the fiat opinion of a judge supreme over the text of the Constitution. ... The First Amendment says that 'Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.' It does not take a constitutional scholar to recognize that I am not Congress,
and no law has been passed." --Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore

"[W]here is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation deserts the oaths...?" --George Washington

"So help me God". -- Judiciary Act of 1789

The laws of nature are the laws of God; whose authority can be superseded by
no power on earth. -- George Mason 1772

"It pleased God to deliver, on Mount Sinai, a compendium of this holy law and
to write it with His own hand on durable tables of stone. This law, which is
commonly called the Ten Commandments or Decalogue ...was incorporated in the
judicial law."
-- William Findley, Revolutionary War soldier, U.S. Congressman.

"The sanctions of the Divine law...cover the whole area of human action...The
laws which regulate our conduct are the laws of man and the laws of God."
-- DeWitt Clinton, introduced the 12th Amendment, governor of New York, U.S.
Senator.

"We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capability of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
-- James Madison, 4th President of the United States, member of the 1787 Constitutional Convention, and chief architect of the United States Constitution.

"In France I had almost always seen the spirit of religion and the spirit of freedom marching in opposite directions. But in America I found they were intimately united and that they reigned in common over the same country.... Religion in America...must be regarded as the foremost of the political institutions of that country; for if it does not impart a taste for freedom, it facilitates
the use of it....There is no country in the whole world where the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America, and there can be no greater proof
of its utility...than that its influence is powerfully felt over the most enlightened and free nation of the earth." --Alexis de Tocqueville in "Democracy in America"

"...[T]he importance of piety and religion; of industry and frugality; of prudence, economy, regularity and an even government; all ... are essential to the well-being of a family." --Samuel Adams

Let me close with this one remark....."By now, even Darwin believes"
Joe Gresham
SIP/Ky




From: "Chris" To: "Joseph Gresham"
Subject: Fw: [aachat] Top Ten Signs You're an Xtian.... (for real)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 06:39:38 -0500
Found this on another list....
10- You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.
Yes, that's true, but then MY GOD (notice it's capitalized) is GOD!
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
I don't feel insulted, I feel betrayed, the only way the THEORY of evolution was slipped into our public schools was that it was promised to be presented as a THEORY, which is all it is....but then, why should we believe the word of heathens, they have no reason to be honest or moral...they are too pig headed to realize the punishment that awaits them
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god.
Absolutely true...no problem at all
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the 'atrocities' attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus' and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in 'Joshua' -- including women, children, and animals!
Mohammed was a bastard and a pedophile, naturally HIS god is perverted, sick and false!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about god sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
Absolutely
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.
You're wrong here, I don't look for loopholes...I believe the Bible, and dispute the theory of the atheistic "scientists"(...by the way, a growing number of scientists are disputing much of the modernistic garbage you are promoting) I know many who believe that the Bible does not really specify how old the Earth is. In Genesis, God created the Earth and it was without form and darkness was upon it...who knows how long it remained that way, before he "gave it shape" and separated the water from the land?
4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most 'tolerant' and 'loving'.
Almost true...there's the issue of age of accountability, those too young or mentally impaired will be spared. As far as "rival sects", if you're referring to other Christians aside from those of my Baptist persuasion, you're wrong again, if they are saved by the grace of God, they'll go to Heaven..regardless of their Church affiliation. Religion tolerate and loving? Some modernists believe that but not me, Christians have too long been tolerant, of pukes like you pushing their Marxist agenda, and Churches preaching and teaching falsehoods and bad doctrine. Jesus was not passive and tolerant when he ran the money changers from the Temple, and neither am I
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in 'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
I don't know what you're talking about, an idiot rolling around on a flood and speaking in tongues? Not in my Bible! Speaking in tongues is referred to in two different manners in the Bible, the miraculous way was one, it is where a man is speaking in one language and people of different languages heard it in their own language, the second way was to confuse paganistic builders of the Tower of Babel, so that they could not communicate to complete their tower. Those are the only types of "speaking in tongues" that I believe in.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
Well, you must not know any Christians like I know, we have a lot better average than that, however we don't get everything we ask for, just like when I asked my earthly father..I didn't get everything then either...but you're right to a degree, when our prayers aren't answered, it's the will of God..sometimes because it's not right for us, and sometimes because we are not in fellowship with God.
1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a "Christian."
Well AGAIN you're WRONG....not that I can recite every verse of the Bible, but I am quite well studied in the Bible


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Chris Matthews,

The whitewashing of JFK by you and your fellow Socialist cronies makes me sick!  You brag on his handling of the Cuban missle crisis....the TRUTH is, he didn't handle it, he MIS-handled it.  He  traded away our future security, for an image of "something cylindrical" covered in tarps on a ship.  We have no way of knowing if ANY MISSLES EVER LEFT CUBA, it was probably steel drums under those tarps.  We had no verification.  Castro outwitted Kennedy, pure and simple.  And while we're talking about Cuba, why not mention the way Kennedy was too busy partying with the rich folks (he was getting drunk at a party) to bother with the handling of what became known as the "Bay of Pigs massacre".  Those poor people were promised u.S support and died because it never came, though at the last minute JFK did make a token gesture...just so it couldn't be said that he "did nothing".
  Of course you can't accurately remember JFK or for that matter RFK without remembering Marilyn Monroe,  I wonder which one of them had her killed?  They were both "intimately involved" with her, and jealousy is a powerful thing.
The fact is ALL of that Kennedy clan, including the Hero of Chappaquidick...Teddy, are about as sorry and low-life as they come.
  I would love to have a chance to take you to task about so many of your idols (and be allowed to talk, not interrupted constantly like you are so good at doing).
  You sir are a never ending assault on freedom, and you are surely no excuse for a journalist.  A journalist seeks to present the truth, and reports it in an unbiased way.

Very Sincerely,
Joe Gresham
dixie_crat@hotmail.com
The following E-mail, witten in November of 2003, to  big shot so-called "TV journalist" in response to his ridiculous praising of JFK on his website.....he never responded to my message.
So this is the website for the Socialist Party Law Center...ain't that something!
You talk about "tolerance", but obviously that's not what you're about.
You are instead about Marxism, furthering the Marxist totalitarian agenda, and destroying all that is decent and right about America.
You make me want to vomit.  Please be honest (pardon me..that means "truthful", a concept totally foreign to you and your ilk)
  Change your official name to what it really should be, there's nothing "Southern" about you, except maybe your geographical location, but the word "Southern" implies a meaning of Honest, Honorable & Christian....three ideals that you have NO CLUE ABOUT!
  As I stated in my opening comments, you in fact are the "SOCIALIST PARTY LAW CENTER"
  Your "work" is likened to a wrecking ball against the liberty of us all.  You would do us all a favor by slithering back under the slimey rock from which you came.

So very sincerely,
   Joe Gresham
dixie_crat@hotmail.com
Below is a short posting I left on website of the "southern poverty law center", I went there to look at the "gloating" about them getting Judge Moore and the 10 Commandments removed from the Courthouse in Alabama...again, NO RESPONSE!
Mr. Lilly, I've inserted my comments in red within the body of your letter

Joe Gresham
SIP/Ky
From: "Larry Lilly" <theyankeepeddler@cox.net> To: "Joseph Gresham" <dixie_crat@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: We have been betrayed!!!!! Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:51:23 -0700
Joseph;
I personally believe that some day in the not to far future we...each and every one of us... will have to stand before our maker and give an accounting as to whether we voted or not and whom we voted for and why I agree, I believe we will have to answer why we voted for people who would kill millions of babies, promote all sorts of perversion, allow our people to be attacked and killed to involve us in wars which we had no business in, with countless body bags carrying home the remains of those called to action.  I believe we will have to answer for allowing our servicemen to be left behind as POWs without raising a fit for their return...We were given this special land to live in We were given this land, by people like my ancestors, who settled , tamed and fought for it and we are expected to do the very best that we can to stand for the United States Constitution The u.S Constitution was set aside by Mr. Lincoln, and has not been reimplemented, why do you think judges can sit there and impose un- Constitutional demands upon us, when anyone with a pulse can understand that what is being demanded violates the Constitution with every fiber of our being...you and I know what that sacred document stands for and we are expected to defend it...My ancestors saw what lincoln and his cronies were up to and chose to lawfully separate from Lincolns empire, they were forced back in at gunpoint, that's called coercion and duress. I am a citizen of an occupied Country...the C.S.A.  All Americans are disenfranchised, especially Southerners.  I am a U.S. NAVY Veteran, I have served the u.S., but for the last time...my service, from here on out will be to the CSA. period.
Larry D Lilly

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Gresham
To: recipient list undisclosed
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: We have been betrayed!!!!!
Both of you make valid points. Lord knows we have been betrayed. Legitimate American government ceased to exist in 1865. As Chairman of the SIP of Kentucky, I won't officially endorse any candidate for u.S President, however in my humble opinion, no freedom minded American should even consider voting for either of the two major party           ( actually two branches of one Marxist party) candidates...both are whores, and globalist, Marxists, pukes! As a disenfranchised Southron, there is no candidate running for President of my country, but rather than refraining from voting at all, I will vote for some third party candidate. I guess it's simply a matter of conscience.
Joe Gresham                                                                                                                       SIP/Ky
                                                                                        
From: "
To: "Charles Goodson"
Subject: Re: We have been betrayed!!!!!
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 06:17:50 +0000
There are more than two parties. Rather than not vote at all, I plan to vote for whoever is the Libertarian candidate. That might not sit well with some of you, so why not vote for whoever will be the Constitution Party candidate? Not 100% southern either one, but states rights and constitutional government concerns both.
Adam G.
-----Original Message-----

From: Charles G
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 ,
Subject: We have been betrayed!!!!!
Hello all, I have been quiet about the Presidential Election of 2004, many have asked what my opinion is about the candidates. I have held for many years that the national elections, save the voting of our Congressional leaders, was just voting for the lesser of two evils. To be honest, I don't even vote in the National elections anymore, it has gotten that bad. But I have decided now to voice my own opinions on the matter, take them for what they are worth. It is my belief, that we have been betrayed by both the Republicans and the Democrats.
Neither party can be trusted to truely represent the people, they are more interested in party loyalty than the loyalty for their members. Both parties have lied, and neither of them really care what the people want. Bush has lied about the WMD's being in Iraq, Kerry voted for the war. Neither can be trusted to tell the truth, both have their own agenda. On the matter of Illegal Immigrants, neither has shown real concern about the safety of citizens of the South. Both favour amnesty for the Illegals, neither will do anything to stem the tide of the invasion.
Voting for the lesser of two evils, is still voting for evil no matter what you call it. So I call upon all Southerns, don't vote in the Presidential election of 2004. Voice your concern, by not voting for the lesser of two evils.

Charles Goodson Chairman Southern Parties of the Southwest

Below is an email exchange about the futility of voting for a Republican or Democrat in the upcoming election that I was included in, and then this "wannabe Patriot" decided he was going to rip someone apart....well I couldn't help myself, though, I was polite about it.  The exchange starts from the bottom, and works up.
Mr. "Outsider",
Let me begin by stating the obvious.....you are an outsider, because you choose to be.You come down here, and rather than attempting to enjoy and appreciate the many qualities of Southern living, You cry like a baby because it's not a carbon copy of whatever part of "Yankee Land" you happen to be from.  Don't even sit there and complain about Southern accents and speech, there's nothing more disgusting than a New England Yankee accent...those morons can't even pronounce names of places in their region..."Bar Harbour" becomes "Bah Hah-bah"! We don't sound like that, or for that matter, the "Boys in the hood", and I thank God for it. Besides MOST PEOPLE find Southern accents appealing.  Yeah, if you don't have one, guess what? You stand out...just like a Southerner would in Yankee Land !  Sorry, but that's life, quit whining! 

You cry about "someone might be accepted if they're white and move to town and join the Baptist Church"....while that's partly true....let me expound on that.  Kentucky is part of what is known as "The Bible Belt" (it's a Southern thing!)  We are primarily Christian, varying denominations, but basically Christian....and we're not about to apologize for it, as a matter of fact, it's something we're mighty fond of.  We are accommodating of others with different beliefs, just don't attack ours! 

Now for the "race issue", anyone who moves South that acts decently is generally accepted, race is not a factor.  Most blacks in the South, or that have ever lived in the South, will tell you they are more accepted here than in Yankee Land. That's a fact, like it or not! You also mentioned hearing "racist comments"....that too, is a fact of life, anywhere.  Take a trip to a Black community in Yankee Land, I guarantee you, you will at least hear an abundance of anti-white racist remarks, and if you happen to be walking, you might not even survive your sojourn. So don't lay that Yankee lie about "Southern Racist" crap on me.

   The flag you show burning on your webpage (the Confederate Battleflag), is also something we hold mighty dear.  If you burn one in front of me, I'll rearrange your face!  Whether you realize it or not, that flag represents THE ONLY RIGHTEOUS SIDE in that war. For your education and edification, I suggest you pick up a copy of "The South was right" by the Kennedy Bros. and a copy of The Real Lincoln" by Thomas DiLorenzo.  And whether you like it or recognize that fact, or not, is irrelevant....WE LOVE IT, so while you're in Dixie, leave it alone!

If you were to move to France, or anyplace else where there is a different culture, in order to fit in, you would have to learn the local culture, and abide by it at least to a certain degree.  No less is required in Dixie!  We are a separate people, different from the Yankee people, we like it that way.....If you don't.....GET OUT!

Joe Gresham
SIP/Ky
www.kentuckysip.homestead.com
The piece below is my response to some yankee cry baby that put up a website complaining about being an "outsider since he moved to Kentucky.
  His website blasts everything Southern, as he regurgitates the typical yankee anti Southern garbage. 
This was an email, but I never received a reply...maybe he took my advise and went back north!
This is a picture from a 1961 special edition of the Louisville Courier Journal, I assume it's still standing.  This proves that the yankees violated the "Neutrality of Kentucky" and who ordered the violation.  Historical records show that this camp predates any recorded history of Confederate activity in Kentucky
Henry Cornelius Burnett, presiding official at Russellville.Ky. Secession Convention and member of both US and CS Congress from Kentucky
portrait courtesy of Burnett family